Bill Simmons and author Chuck Klosterman are having a long conversation on ESPN.com’s Page 2. You all know and love Simmons… Klosterman, I had never heard of before, but he writes about music and pop culture, and seems like a fairly hip cat. Between quoting them, and my own response… this could be a lengthy post.
Simmons: Last question: On a scale of 1 to 10, how badly do you think we’ll be skewered on message boards and snarky blogs for what just transpired over the past 7,300 words?
Klosterman: I’d probably say about 8.4, unless there happens to be a preponderance of Merton Hanks message boards that I am currently unaware of. In that case I’d go with 8.9, most of whom will be failed graduate students suggesting we’re estranged lovers (and will therefore make references to that upcoming cowboy movie starring Donnie Darko).
Well, since they asked…
Here’s what they both had to say about blogs. Now, obviously, if you’re here, you’re reading a sports blog, and this probably isn’t the only one you read. And as a writer of a sports blog, sure, I care what people think, and I took this as sort of an indirect criticism of myself. Here’s what they had to say:
Klosterman: I am not sure if I necessarily agree with the scope of your generational analysis. What will be interesting about the coming generation of people (at least if you’re a writer) is that they will have a twisted concept of what the word “media” is supposed to mean. A term you hear people use a lot these days is “New Media,” which really just means, “Electronic Media, Minus the Actual Reporting.” This is what the Internet is, mostly. I constantly see all these media blogs that just link to conventional “Old Media” articles and pretend to comment upon them, but they add no information and no ideas. They just write, “Oh, look at this terribly archaic New York Times story. Isn’t it pathetic?” But that sentiment is being expressed by someone who’s never done an interview and has no tangible relationship to journalism. It all seems kind of uncreative. My favorite blog was always chaunceybillups.blogspot.com, but I think the dude who wrote it went on some kind of sabbatical.
New Media will never replace Old Media, because New Media couldn’t exist without Old Media; they would have nothing to link to. But the net result is that all people are starting to assume that the media is inherently useless and that there is absolutely no difference between news and entertainment. This will make the coming generation even more cynical than the current one, which is mostly bad (but not necessarily tragic).
Simmons: I liked your point about New Media. Everyone keeps talking about the Blog Revolution, but what does that even mean? If you were in film school and wanted to make movies for a living, would you create a movie from scratch, or would you just make documentaries about other filmmakers and how much they stunk? You’d make the movie from scratch, right? Well, what’s the point of writing about people who write about sports/movies/politics/music if you’re not backing up your words with your own columns or features? How do you have credibility then? I could write for a living, I just choose to rip everyone else. What? How does that make sense? What’s the ultimate goal there? Why not come up with your own material, angles and thoughts? Wouldn’t that be more rewarding? How do you get better? That’s what I don’t understand.
I’m not killing all blogs here — some of them are useful because they find me stories that I couldn’t find on my own, and some of their comments or features make me laugh and think. When the goal is to keep everyone on their toes, have some fun, provide an alternate take on things and remain at least somewhat objective, that’s great. If you’re using a blog to constantly ream everyone else, that’s depressing. Also, how can we have so many libels/slander laws in place for newspapers, and yet the Internet is like the Wild West? People can steal material, slander people, rip them to shreds, make up news … I mean, you can get away with anything now. Do you know how many times an NBA Web site reported having sources that confirmed some trade that ended up never happening? It was embarrassing. I could go on about this forever.
First, Klosterman. He’s exactly right about “new media” and “old media.” People like the reporters at the New York Times and wherever else make it possible for me to do what I do. I seek not to replace, disparage, or poke fun at them, and I never have. This is a blog about sports, not about sports journalism. Now, I’ve talked about different reporters and writers, and have disagreed with and/or ridiculed their opinions. But that’s different. I’m not criticizing the work they do, in terms of finding and producing a story.
I’ve always felt like jouranlism was too easy of a target. Everyone likes to hammer journalists and lawyers without really understanding what actually goes into the professions. I studied journalism for a while. Not enough to be Edward R. Murrow, but enough to know that it’s not an easy thing, and to know that it wasn’t what I wanted to do.
Now, you may be sitting there thinking, “Well, you’ve been pretty hard on Peter King.” And indeed, I have. But still, I respect what he does. I would not want to travel to training camps, interview coaches, watch games from press boxes… it’s just not my style. It’s not how my brain works. My issues with Peter King have always been about his opinions, which I sometimes disagree with. That’s it. I still respect his work.
I think Klosterman misunderstands the intent of sports bloggers. I don’t want to do interviews. I have no interest in engaging in journalism. I have my opinions, they’re new, they’re mine, they’re individual, and I present them. My goal is just to have a place to share my opinions, entertain a little bit, manufacture a few chuckles, and maybe, every now and then, make people think about something they haven’t thought about before.
Now, Simmons. I don’t really understand what he’s saying about backing up my words with my own columns and features. I don’t know why I need credibility. I could (and would love to) write longer, more thoughtful things… but I don’t have even a fraction of the available time that it would take to do a 2,000 word column correctly. It’s not like I’m earning (or even seeking) a paycheck here, although, that might be nice. On most days, I have a few other things to do than tend to this blog.
And while we’re on the subject… what real reporting does Simmons do? What is it that he’s creating? Now, don’t misunderstand me, I like what he does. I enjoy reading him, and I have no serious complaints about him. But he’s not in locker rooms getting stories, he’s not traveling to anywhere to interview people… He sits in his house, or perhaps at the games, and then he comments on them. Is that a correct interpretation on my part on his role as a writer? Because, you know… that’s kinda what I do. Only shorter, and not as good. I don’t know why he’s going to criticize bloggers for not doing something that he doesn’t do himself.
I’d like to think that I do come up with my own material, angles, and thoughts. I don’t just read other writers, and hammer their work. I respect their work. I will criticize, I will disagree with opinions, and I will present my own. I don’t know why I need more credibility to do that.
Anyway… that’s all I have to say.